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Move Changes

General Changes

The attributes of all moves (power, accuracy, PP, effect chance, priority) are updated to match Sword and Shield, with both DLCs.

  • Charm and Moonlight are now Fairy-type as in Sword and Shield.

Legends: Arceus and 'Dexit' have introduced a high degree of fragmentation towards move effects in the main series.

  • See 'Redux Move Modifications' below for more information on how we've tackled that!

Move Replacements

To help modernise the game, the following moves have been replaced with moves from later generations.

  • Moves under the "Old Move" column are now unavailable.
Old Move New Move
Sand Tomb Accelerock
Horn Drill Boomburst
Spike Cannon Breaking Swipe
Slam Brutal Swing
Luster Purge Dazzling Gleam
Round Disarming Voice
Sweet Kiss Draining Kiss
Vice Grip Dual Wingbeat
Bubble Esper Wing
Razor Wind Fire Lash
Constrict Infestation
Rolling Kick Headlong Rush
Mega Kick High Horsepower
Barrage Lunge
Mist Ball Moonblast
Sacred Fire Mystical Fire
Sharpen Nuzzle
Submission Play Rough
Comet Punch Power Up Punch
Egg Bomb Psychic Fangs
Smelling Salts Psyshield Bash
Thrash Raging Fury
Metal Sound Scorching Sands
Mega Punch Smart Strike
Triple Kick Triple Axel
Punishment Wave Crash

Type Changes

Certain moves have had their type in future generations, or many have been changed to 'non-canon' variations. These are listed below.

Move Old Type New Type Custom
Charm Normal Fairy
Covet Normal Fairy
Cut Normal Grass
Moonlight Normal Fairy
Rock Climb Normal Rock

Redux Move Modifications

As of late, the Pokémon series has become decently fragmented across different titles when it comes to moves.

  • With Legends: Arceus came a further fragmentation of move effects across the Pokémon series.
  • As of writing, it's hard to know what will carry over to the 'mainline' series (think Stealth Rock changes etc).
  • This makes updating moves to current standards fairly tricky, so we've gone with a 'selective' approach - e.g. just take the bits we like!

Below are all the changes made to moves from vanilla Gen V in Redux. There are three different categories of changes:

  • Changes made by Gamefreak in the mainline series of games (XY -> Sword and Shield). These changes are unmarked.
  • Changes made by Gamefreak in Legends: Arceus. These changes are marked by an '[L:A]'.
  • Changes made by ourselves, like in Renegade Platinum, are marked by an '[!]'.

Further Modifications:

  • All Sound Moves now hit through a defenders Substitute, like in Gen VI+.

With that out of the way, here are the changes to moves made in Redux:

Move Attribute Old New Custom L:A
Absorb Power 20 35
Acid Power 20 35
Acid Armor PP 40 20
Air Cutter Power 55 60
└── PP 25 15
Air Slash PP 15 10
Ally Switch Priority +1 +2
Aqua Tail Power 90 100
└── Accuracy 90 85
Arm Thrust Power 15 20
Assurance Power 50 60
Astonish Power 30 35
Aura Sphere Power 80 90
Aurora Beam Power 65 75
Barrier PP 30 20
Blaze Kick Accuracy 90 100
Blizzard Power 120 110
Bite PP 25 20
Bubble Beam Power 65 70
Bulk Up PP 20 10
Bullet Punch PP 30 20
Calm Mind PP 20 10
Charge Beam PP 10 15
Chatter Power 70 90
└── PP 20 10
Confusion PP 25 20
Covet PP 40 20
└── Type Normal Fairy
Crabhammer Effect High Critical Ratio 10% Def -1
Cross Poison Power 70 90
└── PP 20 15
Crunch PP 15 10
Cut Effect None High Critical Ratio
└── Type Normal Grass
Draco Meteor Power 140 130
Dark Pulse PP 15 10
└── Accuracy 100 Never Miss
Dark Void Accuracy 50 90
Dive Power 80 100
Dragon Breath Power 60 70
Dragon Claw Power 80 85
└── PP 15 10
└── Effect None High Critical Ratio
Dragon Pulse Power 85 90
└── Accuracy 100 Never Miss
Dragon Rush Accuracy 75 80
Dragon Tail Accuracy 90 95
Draining Kiss Power 50 70
Echoed Voice Power 40 50
Energy Ball Power 80 90
Extrasensory PP 20 15
False Swipe PP 40 30
Fire Blast Power 120 110
Fire Pledge Power 50 75
Fire Punch PP 15 10
Flame Charge Power 50 60
Flame Wheel Power 60 75
└── PP 25 20
Flamethrower PP 15 10
Flash Cannon Power 80 90
Fly Power 95 80
└── Accuracy 95 100
Focus Energy PP 30 20
Follow Me Priority +3 +2
Frost Breath Power 60 50
Fury Cutter Power 20 30
Future Sight Power 100 120
Gear Grind Power 50 65
└── Accuracy 85 95
└── PP 15 10
Giga Drain Power 75 80
Glaciate Power 65 85
└── Accuracy 95 100
Glare Accuracy 90 100
Grass Pledge Power 50 75
Grass Whistle Accuracy 55 65
Growth PP 40 20
Gust PP 35 25
Gunk Shot Accuracy 70 80
Head Smash Accuracy 80 85
Heart Stamp Power 60 75
└── PP 25 15
Heat Wave Power 95 100
Hex Power 50 65
└── PP 10 15
Howl Effect Raises User and Allies Attack Raises only Users Attack
Hurricane Power 120 110
└── Accuracy 70 80
└── PP 10 5
Hydro Pump Power 120 110
Ice Beam Power 95 90
Ice Punch PP 15 10
Ice Shard PP 30 20
Incinerate Power 50 60
Inferno Accuracy 50 65
Judgment Power 100 150
Knock Off Power 20 65
Leaf Storm Power 140 130
Leaf Tornado Power 65 70
└── Accuracy 90 100
└── Effect 50% Accuracy -1 30% Accuracy -1
Leech Life Power 20 80
└── PP 15 10
Lick Power 20 30
└── PP 30 25
Low Sweep Power 60 65
Mach Punch PP 30 20
Magic Room Priority -7 0
Magma Storm Power 100 120
Mega Drain Power 40 65
Meteor Mash Power 90 95
Minimize PP 20 10
Muddy Water Power 95 90
Mud Slap Power 20 30
└── PP 10 20
Needle Arm Power 60 100
└── Effect None Boosted by the ability Iron Fist
Octazooka Power 65 90
└── PP 10 5
└── Effect 50% Accuracy -1 30% Accuracy -1
└── Effect None High Critical Ratio
Overheat Power 140 130
Pin Missile Power 14 25
└── Accuracy 85 95
Poison Fang Power 50 65
└── Accuracy 100 95
└── Effect B.Poison 30% 50%
Poison Gas PP 40 20
└── Accuracy 80 100
Poison Jab PP 20 10
Poison Powder PP 35 20
Poison Sting Power 15 30
└── PP 35 20
Poison Tail Power 50 80
└── PP 25 10
Power Gem Power 80 90
└── PP 20 10
└── Effect None Sp. Def Drop 10%
Power Up Punch Power 40 50
Psycho Cut Power 70 90
└── PP 20 10
Quick Attack PP 30 20
Rage Powder Priority +3 +2
Rapid Spin Power 20 50
Razor Shell Accuracy 95 100
Roar Accuracy 100 Never Miss
Rock Climb Power 90 80
└── Accuracy 85 95
└── PP 20 10
└── Type Normal Rock
Rock Smash Power 40 55
└── 50% Def -1 100% Def -1
└── Effect None Boosted by the ability Iron Fist
Rock Tomb Power 50 60
└── Accuracy 80 95
└── PP 10 15
Rollout Power 30 40
Sacred Sword PP 20 15
Scald PP 15 10
└── Effect 30% Burn 10% Burn
Shadow Ball PP 15 10
Shadow Punch Power 60 90
Shadow Claw PP 70 90
Shadow Sneak PP 30 20
Slash PP 20 15
Sludge Power 65 70
└── PP 20 15
Smelling Salts Power 60 70
Smog Power 20 35
└── Accuracy 70 90
Snarl Accuracy 95 100
Spore PP 15 10
Steamroller Power 75 100
└── Accuracy 100 90
└── PP 20 10
String Shot Effect Speed -1 Speed -2
Storm Throw Power 40 50
Strength Power 80 85
└── Effect None 10% Raise Attack
└── PP 15 10
Stun Spore PP 30 20
└── Accuracy 75 90
Sucker Punch Power 80 70
Surf Power 95 90
Swagger Accuracy 90 85
Swords Dance PP 30 20
Psycho Shift Accuracy 90 100
Psywave Accuracy 80 100
Synchronoise Power 70 120
└── PP 15 10
Tackle Power 40 50
└── PP 35 30
Tailwind PP 30 15
Techno Blast Power 85 140
Thief Power 40 50
└── PP 10 15
Triple Axel Power 20 30
└── Effect Successive Hits Power 20 10
Thunder Power 120 110
└── PP 10 5
Thunder Punch PP 15 10
Thunder Shock PP 30 25
Thunderbolt Power 95 90
└── PP 15 10
Thunder Wave Accuracy 100 90
Twineedle Power 25 40
Twister Power 40 50
└── PP 25 20
Venoshock PP 10 15
Vine Whip Power 35 40
Wake Up Slap Power 60 70
Waterfall PP 15 10
Water Pledge Power 50 75
Wild Charge PP 15 10
└── Effect Recoil No Recoil
Will O Wisp Accuracy 75 85
Whirlwind Accuracy 100 Never Miss
Wonder Room Priority -7 0
X Scissor PP 15 10
└── Effect None High Critical Ratio
Zen Headbutt PP 15 10

*Not currently implemented/cannot be properly implemented due limitations with the Gen V engine/toolset.

**Accounting for the x2 damage of critical hits in Gen V, as opposed to the x1.5 damage of Gen VI+.

***Born of current Gen V Limitations, uses Triple Kick mechanics, with a higher initial base power. This should work out to roughly the same amount of damage.

Legends: Arceus Moves

Move Attribute Old New Custom L:A
Esper Wing Power 75 70
└── Accuracy 90 100
└── PP 10
└── Effect +1 Priority like Quick Attack
Headlong Rush Power 100 120
└── Accuracy 100 90
└── PP 5
└── Effect Drops both Defense and Special Defense like Close Combat
Psyshield Bash Power 70
└── Accuracy 90 95
└── PP 10
└── Effect Rasies the user's Defense and Special Defense by one stage.
Raging Fury Power 90 95
└── Accuracy 85 100
└── PP 10
└── Effect Confuses user like Outrage
Wave Crash Power 75 110
└── Accuracy 100
└── PP 10 5
└── Effect Damages user like Double Edge